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- From: "Radermacher, Ulrich" <Ulrich.Radermacher@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 01:13:38 +0200
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This seems a(n) undocumented convention, not a defintion in the xsd
met vriendelijke groeten
Ulrich Radermacher
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Van: Oliver Pesch [mailto:OPesch@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Verzonden: di 21-4-2009 1:08
Aan: Radermacher, Ulrich; sushidevelopers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Onderwerp: Re: [sushidevelopers] Counter XML Question
The date ranges of usage is expressed in the Request. The response includes
details for each month represented by the request. So if the request asks for
jan thru march... The response would return stats for jan, feb, and mar as
separate nodes.
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From: Radermacher, Ulrich
To: sushidevelopers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Mon Apr 20 18:00:48 2009
Subject: RE: [sushidevelopers] Counter XML Question
How can a Sushi client expect that when requesting data from januari to march
to receive 3 "columns", one for each month? Wouldn't the client be required to
ask 3 times for one month, if he/she wants to receive data "per month"?
met vriendelijke groeten
Ulrich Radermacher
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Si j'étais Dieu, j'aurais pitié du coeur des hommes (Maeterlinck)
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Van: Kim, Tae [mailto:Tae.Kim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Verzonden: di 21-4-2009 0:43
Aan: Michael T. Puff; sushidevelopers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Onderwerp: Re: [sushidevelopers] Counter XML Question
The idea is the pdf and html counts should be split up monthly as well. Of
course, if the sushi service doesn't store that data at that granular level and
instead just as a YTD total, that data can't be returned in a sushi call anyway
because the requestor can request stats for an arbitrary length of months, for
example Nov 2007 to Feb 2008.
-Tae Kim
On 4/20/09 3:35 PM, "Michael T. Puff" <mtpuff@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
It would seem to me that multi-month would be required for a proper COUNTER JR1
report. The monthly counts represent ft_total which can be a combination html,
pdf, etc. While the JR1 "YTD TOTAL" column is a simple sum of the monthly
columns (and admittedly redundant), the JR1 columns for "YTD HTML" and "YTD
PDF" cannot be derived from the monthly counts. I think you would need
multi-month instance to report these two figures as ft_html and ft_pdf else the
report would not meet the JR1 specification.
-Michael
On Apr 20, 2009, at 9:09 AM, Dennis Vaux wrote:
At Innovative, we have coded our SUSHI client to ignore any period counts for
periods that span more than one month. I agree that no one needs this
"summary" data, but it isn't explicitly prohibited by the xsd, and we were
unsuccessful when we tried to get Scholarly Stats to stop sending these summary
counts in their SUSHI response when we first tested SUSHI 1.0 with them.
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From: Kim, Tae [mailto:Tae.Kim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 9:30 AM
To: sushidevelopers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [sushidevelopers] Counter XML Question
I'm working with Proquest sushi service and they return the stats for every
month and a total for all the months.
For example if I ask for Jan-March, it returns something like:
2008-01-01 to 2008-01-31: 3 requests
2008-02-01 to 2008-02-28: 4 requests
2008-03-01 to 2008-03-31: 1 requests
2008-01-01 to 2008-03-31: 8 requests
I'd LIKE to tell them that really, the last is redundant and spans multiple
months so it shouldn't be in the result.
But really, I can't find anything in the SUSHI or COUNTER standard that
dictates that each data point should be exactly one month in duration.
The xsd of course can't really validate anything like this.
Can anybody point me to something in the standard? Usage stats spanning
multiple months is kinda problematic for me and I imagine for other clients
as well.
Tae Kim
Software Developer
Serials Solutions
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Michael T. Puff
Systems Specialist,
HighWire Press, Stanford University
Phone: 650-723-8348; Fax: 650-725-9335
mtpuff@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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