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[David Parker <david.parker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I have read this ongoing exchange with great interest. We are a newer
publisher with a focus on delivering e-book collections on business topics
in a no-DRM environment and we signed on with SERU very early in our
history. My only concern with SERU is the matter of inter-library loan,
which feels potentially problematic to us given our policy of delivering our
e-books to our customers with perpetual, unlimited, no-DRM access. In
essence, our concern is, at the extreme, we could sell our collection to one
library and see it "loaned" endlessly.

I am curious to hear other thoughts on this.

David Parker
Publisher
Business Expert Press
201-673-8784


On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Boissy, Robert, Springer US <
Robert.Boissy@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Springer is happy to be using SERU with a variety of clients.  Between
> Springer, T&F and de Gruyter you have a good start on commercial
> publishing houses using SERU, and the other 39 publishers on the list
> also help make a case for it.  There is no cost to use it.  The
> purchasing process can return to a simple PO and Invoice.
>
> We ask that clients notify us in advance of their desire to use SERU,
> and that their PO documents have the "magic" words:
>
> In the absence of a separate license agreement, Springer and xxxxxxxxxx
> follow the SERU guidelines, as published at the NISO SERU website:
> http://www.niso.org/committees/SERU/.
>
> Of course, we are unable to use SERU unless the client registers their
> institution or their consortium.
>
> There is a debate over whether SERU is in fact a license, or not.  From
> our view this is a moot point.  We think it basically reverts legal
> discussions back to copyright law, CONTU, etc. which is better
> understood anyway.  If it speeds things up, we are in favor of it.
>
> Sales is essentially about discussion of a product and negotiating a
> purchase and a price, not debating the fine points of liability,
> indemnity, severability, and force majeure.
>
> Having said all this in favor of SERU, it remains completely optional
> for all parties, and I think there will be a fair number of libraries
> who will keep to licensing for the foreseeable future, at least for
> their larger purchases.
>
> -Bob
>
>
>
> Robert W. Boissy
> Springer
> Tel: +1 781 244 7918
> robert.boissy@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: seruinfo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:seruinfo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of Ficken,Carol A
> Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 8:45 AM
> To: Jody Atkinson; lwobbe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; seruinfo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [seruinfo] Cost?
>
> We (University of Akron) are registered with SERU, and I do use it when
> possible.  More publishers are registering and it does save time
> (money).  At a recent NASIG conference a representative of a small
> publisher that is registered with SERU said she pushed very hard with
> their legal person who finally accepted it.  Also, she said that when I
> am trying to license with a small publisher, I should direct them to
> SERU and ask if they would register since she believes many of the small
> publishers are unaware of SERU or the savings of it.
>
> Carol Ficken
> Coordinator, Library Acquisitions
> University Libraries
> Bierce Library - Acquisitions
> University of Akron
> Akron, OH 44325-1708
> Phone:  330.972.7296
> Fax:  330.972.5132
> Email:  cficken@xxxxxxxxxx
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: seruinfo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:seruinfo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of Jody Atkinson
> Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 3:48 AM
> To: lwobbe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; seruinfo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [seruinfo] Cost?
>
> Thankyou to everyone who replied!
>
> I'm hoping we do use SERU, even if the number of publishers (at the
> moment) is not large.  Hopefully the  numbers will grow.
>
> Cheers
> Jody
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Linda Wobbe [mailto:lwobbe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Monday, 14 June 2010 11:26 AM
> To: Jody Atkinson; seruinfo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [seruinfo] Cost?
>
> Hi,
>
> I hope you give SERU a try. For ages we've complained about wasting time
>
> with licenses. Here is a standard way to do away with them which
> preserves fair use rights!
>
> We are registered, as is the consortium I work with, SCELC. I can
> confirm there is no cost. SCELC has worked with several publishers who
> are registered with SERU, including Springer and Project Euclid. I just
> wish more publishers would join!
>
> ...Linda
>
> Linda Wobbe Head, Collection Management/ Saint Mary's College Library/
> 1928 Saint Mary's Road/ Moraga, CA 94583-4290/ ph(925)631-4232;
> fx(925)376-6097
>
> On 6/13/10 6:57 PM, Jody Atkinson wrote:
> >
> > Hello
> >
> > My library has asked me to look into SERU to determine if we want to
> > use it. I can't find anything that refers to any cost involved in
> > signing up or using SERU - can someone confirm that it is free to use
> it?
> >
> > I would also be interested in hearing from other libraries using SERU.
>
> > Do you find it useful? Are many publishers / vendors you subscribe
> > from willing to use it?
> >
> > Thankyou
> >
> > Jody Atkinson
> >
> > Resources and Access
> > Curtin University Library
> > Tel: 08 9266 4081
> > Email : j.atkinson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
>